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Saddam's Execution Brings No Hope or Justice for Iraq
by GP
Tuesday January 02, 2007 at 02:55 PM
Greens: Saddam Hussein's execution brings neither hope or justice for Iraq or regional stability, Greens categorically oppose the death penalty, Trial and execution ignored complicity by U.S. officials (including Rumsfeld) and corporations in Saddam's atrocities, Saddam was convicted, but Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are still at large.
Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org
Monday, January 1, 2007
Contacts: Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, mclarty@greens.org Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene@gp.org
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Green Party leaders responded to news of the execution of Saddam Hussein with a warning that his hanging brings neither hope for the Iraqi people nor justification for the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
"The Green Party opposed the execution of Saddam Hussein, because we categorically oppose the death penalty and reject it as an instrument of justice," said Jill Bussiere, 2006 Green candidate for the Wisconsin State Senate (District 1) <http://www.votejill.org/nodeathpenalty.htm>. "Greens look forward to the fall of all governments that abuse their power, but we support international laws that forbid the invasion of one country by another and the U.S. Constitution, which mandates that our armed forces exist solely for defense of U.S. borders."
"The Bush Administration initially justified the invasion of Iraq by claims about WMDs, collusion with Al-Qaeda, and the need for preemption;' and later by propaganda about liberating the Iraqi people and bestowing democracy. All of these have been proven fraudulent. The reason that President Bush acted to remove Saddam Hussein was to assert U.S. political domination over the Middle East and control over oil resources," Ms. Bussiere added.
Greens noted that the current situation in Iraq suggests that the next government will -- like the Saddam Hussein regime -- be an autocracy that disregards law and the rights of its citizens and is sustained with U.S. support. The outcome of the Iraqi civil war that followed the U.S. invasion is likely to be a new autocratic regime (or regimes, if Iraq divides into two or three nations), possibly a repressive, misogynistic theocracy similar to Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Saddam Hussein's quick and extra-legal execution, said Greens, also makes it unlikely that the world will see the investigation and prosecution of U.S. leaders who supported his regime in the 1980s, when most of his atrocities took place, and U.S. corporations that provided the means, including biological and chemical weapons, for Saddam to commit crimes against humanity.
Saddam was noticeably not tried for crimes in which he used American made weapons, said Greens, in order to protect U.S. leaders (especially Reagan Administration officials and former Bush Administration Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld) and firms that were complicit in his crimes by providing aide, intelligence, and chemical and biological arms. (See "How the West armed Saddam, fed him intelligence on his 'enemies', equipped him for atrocities - and then made sure he wouldn't squeal" by Robert Fisk, The Independent, December 31, 2006 <http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2114403.ece>.)
"The invasion of Iraq was an international crime for which the current White House must be held accountable through impeachment and criminal prosecution" said Starlene Rankin, Lavender Caucus delegate to the Green Party's national committee. "Saddam Hussein's execution brings neither peaceful resolution, justice, or democracy for the people of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was convicted, but George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld are still at large."
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Good Reason
by nonya
Monday January 08, 2007 at 03:52 PM
This article is proof that the GP is populated with complete fucking idiots.
"nonya", fuck off!
by Saab Lofton
Monday January 08, 2007 at 08:51 PM
"Nonya", huh? So you have a problem with the Greens because they're against the death penalty? Because they're against killing? God, your a sick fuck. And while the Greens themselves are too polite to tell you so, I'm the Wolverine of the bunch, so allow me ...
1) You're a hypocrite. My guess is a right-wing scum like you would be the first motherfucker to claim that we can't share the wealth because supposedly, the millisecond we do, Stalin will come out the ground like a zombie from a George Romero movie. Well, the death toll in Russia was NOT due to sharing wealth but in fact due to (drum roll please) Stalin's belief in and use of THE DEATH PENALTY. So you're all for killing Saddam, but if Stalinists kill, that's bad, huh? Like I said, fucking hypocrite ...
2) You're an ig-nant bastard. Saddam Hussien was CREATED BY THE CIA ...
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zepezauer_Mark/Iraq_Boomerang.html
Saddam Hussein first made a name for himself in a CIA-backed assassination attempt against General Abdel Karim Qassim, then in charge of Iraq. In 1958, Qassim had overthrown and executed the unpopular British-backed monarch, King Faisal. The CIA was taken by surprise, and U.S. Ieaders watched in dismay as the Qassim regime pulled out of the pro-Western Baghdad pact, founded the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and asserted Iraq's long-standing claim of sovereignty over Kuwait. Soon the U.S. Iet it be known that it wouldn't mind if Gen. Qassim went to an early grave as well. One of those who answered the call was young Saddam, then a minor officer of the Ba'ath Party. The assassination attempt was not successful, and Saddam went into exile in Cairo, where he kept in contact with the U.S. embassy. He returned in 1963, when the still-popular Qassim was successfully liquidated in a Ba'athist coup. Saddam and his colleagues quickly went to work on a bloody purge of 700 Iraqi leftists, using hit lists helpfully provided by, who else, the CIA. Over the next dozen years, through a series of murders, purges, and shifting alliances, Saddam worked his way up through the ranks. He became head of security, then vice-president, and finally, in 1979, supreme leader of Iraq.
... and here he is hangin' wit' his homie Donald Rumsfeld ..!
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
... see, white folks in America want to keep reliving the glory days of World War II. They want to play Sgt. Rock so much to the point where they can't exist without an enemy to demonize. In all the times that FOX News went on and ON about how evil Saddam was, was there ONE point ... just ONE FUCKING POINT in which they pointed out that the CIA created him?
Look at it this way: Let's say the villagers forgave Dr. Frankenstein for having created The Monster ... well, if Dr. Frankenstein KEPT CREATING MORE AND MORE AND MORE MONSTERS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, how in the Hell is a motherfucker supposed to have ANY respect for the villagers' intelligence if they keep forgiving Dr. Frankenstein ..??!!!
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA%20Hits/CIA_GreatestHits.html
3) You're a tool of the military-industrial complex. The primary reason why someone like Saddam is demonized into looking like the Red Skull is because that's the only way the defense industry can make its money. Bling-bling, baby! Don't you know? Once a bomb is dropped, ya gotta con somebody into buying another one ... and another one ... and another one ... mo' money, mo' money, mo' money! What are you going to do? Recycle bullets? Pull a slug out of a motherfucker's chest and reuse it? Nah, the bullet manufactuer has a trophy wife to impress, a mess of kids to put through college and a couple of fancy cars in his garage to maintain.
We the people need a Greenpeace version of FDR's New Deal; an eco-friendly jobs program, so don't tell me we supposedly need Lockheed Martin for the jobs they provide. That's worse than justifying the Mafia because of the money they bring into a given neighborhood. The environment is in such sorry-ass shape to the point where E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y ... everybody from the ghetto to the barrio to the trailer parks ("nonya", I'm looking in your direction) can have a job. Putting solar panels on houses and buildings, making cars run on electric batteries, growing hemp for fabric, and other fun filled activities guaranteed to lower this planet's temperature ...
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0524-07.htm
http://www.apolloalliance.org/
4) Finally, murder is bad. BAD! There's something about not killing in those commandments them damn Christians keep going on about and most of the superhero community agrees on this one ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher
Notable differences
The Punisher is different from the majority of comic book protagonists. He is a cold-blooded killer, a contrast that is especially apparent when he finds himself forced to work alongside such heroes as Spider-Man and Daredevil, who try to enforce a no-killing rule on him. Law-enforcement and superheroes have occasionally tried to capture him, sometimes succeeding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurouni_Kenshin
The series tells the story of an assassin named Himura Kenshin , who was known as the Hitokiri Batt?sai (Translated as Man killer of the sheath. Kenshin later grieves for all the lives he?s taken, and has vowed that he will never kill again).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger
In addition, the Lone Ranger decides to use only silver bullets, as a reminder of his vows to fight for justice, and never to shoot to kill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman
Superman dislikes killing, and vows to "never take a life", and to retire if he ever does. All the same, when General Zod taunts Superman in the Phantom Zone miniseries for his resolve, Superman responds "My code doesn't say a damned thing about not battering you to within an inch of yours!"
http://www.toonzone.net/anbat/bb/eyewitness.html
The most important thing about Batman is that he does not kill.
http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/2005/06/review_batman_b.shtml
And Batman doesn't kill. Not only doesn't he kill people, but he makes a specific point about it.
... and don't get all coy, snide and smug like white folks are notorious for and point out the obvious, because an atheist will swear that Moses and Jesus are just as fictional ... even if the atheists are right and they are, that doesn't negate their worth. Likewise, if your woefully ig-nant ass can learn something from these characters, then by all fucking means ...
How do we defend ourselves if we can't kill our enemies? First of all, what threats are you percieving? If you're spoiled from white skin privilege and First World living, I imagine a couple of planes crashing into a couple of buildings might scare you. Three thousand people died on 9-11, but guess what? Nearly three thousand people die from white supremacist hate crimes every year and many more thousands die of poverty every DAY. So what are we going to do? Delcare war on poverty and white supremacy? Seeing as how you're no doubt RELATED to someone rich or racist (the conservative brother-in-law at the Thanksgiving dinner table), I'm sure yo' ass will be the FIRST motherfucker to jump up and say, "Hey, let's be a pal and only use non-lethal weapons, huh?"
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/non-lethal.htm
Non-lethal capabilities expand the number of options available to commanders confronting situations in which the use of deadly force is not the preferred response. Non-lethal capabilities provide flexibility by allowing forces to apply measured force with reduced risk of serious non-combatant casualties, but in a manner that provides force protection and effects compliance - ensuring the success of the military mission.
Political, diplomatic and economic demands dictate that future operations, where possible, minimize U.S. casualties while limiting collateral civilian casualties and collateral damage to civilian objects.
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Absolute Proof
by nonya
Friday January 19, 2007 at 03:07 PM
Thank you saab or whatever you call yourself. LOL so you are the wolverine of the bunch huh. Just proved my point that the GP is populated by morons. LOL damn thanks for the laugh.
"nonya" suck my dick!
by Saab Lofton
Friday January 19, 2007 at 06:57 PM
Absolute Proof by nonya Friday January 19, 2007 at 03:07 PM
Thank you saab or whatever you call yourself. LOL so you are the wolverine of the bunch huh. Just proved my point that the GP is populated by morons. LOL damn thanks for the laugh.
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WHAT POINT, asshole? I AM Saab Lofton, who the fuck is nonya? What's your real name? Where's this absolute proof? Can you disprove one-fucking-thing I said? I didn't think so. Your best hope is that illiterate motherfuckers with A.D.D. will side with you solely because of your snide, white sarcasm. That's why my favorite four letter word is FACT.
Tell ya what, you prick, why don't you take your sorry ass TO Iraq. Sign up! As desperate as recruiters are today, I'm sure they're spirit you right off! Go there and talk to the victims of America's policies. I bet you next month's rent each and every last one of them would go down on a long man if it meant that the Green Party could finally be in charge, because unlike yo' dumb ass, THEY KNOW it'd mean a better world.
saablofton.com
Nice to see you back Saab
by Dave Peter
Friday January 19, 2007 at 11:38 PM
Saab, nice to see you back here at Indymedia with you enlightful allegories to popular culture. I for one enjoy the allegories and your insight into the current social and political climate. I see nothing idiotic about using allegory and cultural references to make a point.
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